Saturday, July 11, 2015

Alaska and Oregon legalizes pot for recreational use



I'm shocked this didn't make big news locally. I was speaking with a guy from Oregon today and he said they legalized pot there July 1st 2015. Although smoking pot in public is still illegal in Oregon, the International Business Times is reporting that you can even take it on your carry on luggage for domestic flights within the state. Their referendum was November 2014.

I totally missed Alaska. CNN reported that Alaska legalized pot in February 2015. It has also been confirmed by Time Magazine. We all knew Colorado and Washington State voted yes while California voted no but Alaska and Oregon is new news. Once again just because they did doesn't mean we have to. California didn't. It's just news so to speak.

I'm not a big fan of the legalization of pot. Way too many people smoke way too much pot as it is. Teens shouldn't smoke pot and smoking pot while driving is insane. I do support the decriminalization of pot. Legalization of crack or crystal meth is complete social irresponsibility. We need to decriminalize pot so we have the resources to deal with hard drugs like crack and crystal meth. We need to arrest the crack dealers not the addicts. That is the New York model.

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  1. I wake up smoke a joint and drive to work and I snoke 2 more joints at work and about 4 more after and no one even has a clue. You're one of the idiots who still classifies it as a "drug" yes for first time users it is intense and I couldn't imagine driving or doing anything but as my tolerance has become stronger it makes me more calm now. All of my high school friends smoke it. Even people who I thought never would do. You are the old generation you guys will never understand. But hey have a drink and go rage or go kill someone. Ain't no potheads raging or killing anyone. That's the truth. Alcohol is waaaaaay worse.

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    1. You don't have a job Blaze. You are a pot head. Back in the day we called you a stoner. Now you call yourself an activist. You're the one without a clue. But you are right about one thing. I just might rage on you ya little pos. Did you smoke that many joints when you helped Joey shoot Britney Irving in the back?

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    2. I win. You lose. The hells Angels win. You lose. Drugs win. You lose. Junkies Will continue to die and you will continue to cry. So sad for you. You should worry about your own life instead of obsessive and being compulsive over gangsters

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    3. The contradictions in "Roger's" post are quite astounding. For one to advise another of worrying about their life is one contradiction. To claim someone has won before even knowing when the "race" is over is another. To not even know what the "race" is or the rules of it are yet another.

      Junkies may continue to die, but for whom will the bell toll?

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    4. Yeah it's a little bit confusing because Blaze is still posting 20 - 30 stupid comments a day that I don't approve. I just let those two through so we're missing the whole conversation. He keeps changing his username then spamming me. He has yet to figure out I have a spam filter. He started e-mailing me pretending to be a girl again giving me false information. It was obviously him so when I confronted him he stopped e-mailing me under that fake girls name. Just like he was posting under Kayla before: http://gangstersout.blogspot.ca/2015/02/blaze-busted-in-kelowna.html

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  2. This is a bad thing. Watch the weed price fall to the apples price. U know whats gonna happen. Be blood in the streets. We have no jobs. Alberta is in recession. We need high pot prices. I support strong penalties for marijuana only because it supports high prices. That keeps blood off the streets. Gangsters will turn to crack and heroin to survive. Fml. Things lookin bad

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  3. I had read news reports some time ago regarding A. and O. I believe it to be a good idea. Once its legal it can be taxed and it will no longer be the money maker it is for organized or disorganized crime.

    People who want to get high will always find a product. Liquor is no better than pot and kids ought not to be doing either of them. Their brains are still developing.

    It would be dangerous to "legalize" things such as crack, meth, etc. because they are chemicals cooked up by someone who may not know what they are doing. These types of "drugs" are certainly something which police need to deal with.

    The police ought to deal with "high" drives the same as they do with "drunk" drivers. That message needs to get out. Get high and drive, you get treated just like a drunk driver. That message is not getting out there the way it ought to but that is most likely because the provincial government doesn't want to spend the money.

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  4. Who is gonna want to pay tax on a product they already grow tax free. U r way out to lunch. Just gonna create more crime. Easy to undercut the guy who is paying forty percent tax! Come collect your darwin award EAF

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    1. The pot stores in Washington and the pot dispensaries in Vancouver seem busy enough.

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  5. It's a double edged blade, I agree, but the only way to deal with organized crime is to remove their ability to make money, and drugs is where it's at for them. I'm not suggesting that crack and meth are harmless, they are extremely harmful, but what would be different if the G were in charge of the supply line and distribution? Prices for one. No more seeing crackheads or other junkies doing $5K worth of crime/stolen goods a day to get the $500 they need to maintain their habit. Prices down to the actual cost.

    Consider the British model for dealing with heroin. Junkies go to an M.D., get certified as an addict, and thereafter get their daily supply at the drugstore for $5 or thereabouts. Who needs crime to make $5 a day? You can get that panhandling in a hour.

    Organized crime as the drug fueled industry that the Hall's Angles and others have made it in B.C. would change overnight. Back to their stock scams and loansharking etc., but the big money days of dozens of young guys seeing a future with a patch would be largely over.

    At the same time, I'm not suggesting the clown show that is BC/Federal government couldn't find a way to screw this up, but no one is going to pay current street prices for coke when they can get it for $10 a gram with a DL that shows they are 21.

    You want to deal effectively with organized crime and the street crime that supports it, rip out it's guts by taking 90% of the money it can make by doing what it' doing. Bikers and other gangsters will never go back to being the peripheral concern that they were prior to the 1960's in the sense of drugs, or Prohibition in the sense of the beginnings of it all, but they'd be doing penny ante BS rather than having the ability to buy the police and the justice system the way they do now.

    For those who want to act locally as well as think globally, imagine Mexico changing from the Narco-State it is right now to something a bit more benign. The FARC in Columbia would be basically out of business without the funding it gets from coke processing in areas that it controls. This would have happened long ago without it.

    At the end of the day, people are going to do drugs one way or another, the choice we have as a society is how to limit the damage to those who make that choice, and I don't mean that safe injection site BS either. As long as we think we can limit drug use by using the law to control people, we will continue on as we are.

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  6. oh gee I think its one of those times, but no more than 3 times a yr now. I do agree with most of what trailrunner has to say in his post 11:14 a.m.

    There is a whole "industry" out there "fighting" drugs. it cost our country a fortune. Now just think if that money were put into education, health care, programs for vunerable kids, after school programs for children of all ages. out door programs, if the kid wants to do something exciting it would be a whole lot better if they took them skiing or mountain climbing.

    Kids need to be given an alternative and its a one kid at a time thing. No one starts out wanting to be a drug addict.

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    1. And by the time they entered middle school they would be introduced to legalized drugs - drugs their parents would be taking, their teachers, their neighbours. There would be no incentive to actually say "No". Say "no" to what? Something completely legal and endorsed by the government? Advertised and promoted in the media via commercials. Think of the representation drugs would have in movies and music videos and television?

      No, it would not be any kind of an influence at all.

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    2. Actually I believe there are studies that show making something forbidden and "hip" contribute to more people who will try something. It being legal and debunked as far as what it is or is not those numbers tend to drop. Just because you can get legal recreational pharmaceutical grad coke doesn't mean everyone is going to try it, although for some reason there are always folks who think that's exactly what will happen. You could legalize coke/heroin/meth all you want, it wouldn't make me now want to try them where I didn't before. Now if I had cancer and 3 months to live, that might be another story. It's not like there's much of a downside there. Heck, I'll try all of them at that point. ;-)

      I would definitely not think anything of this nature should be endorsed by the government, nor advertised/promoted in the media.

      As far as movies/music video's/TV, that boat has already sailed.....making things "cool" by such is part of how we are where we are. "Faces of Meth" is great stuff, doesn't look so cool anymore.....

      Bear in mind that of all the people who have ever tried whatever drug you care to name, not everyone became a mindless junkie. Also bear in mind that we have that already, what exactly is being prevented?

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    3. Legalizing crack or crystal meth is complete social irresponsibility. Even with pot tolerance the teenagers are getting more bold and smoke it in public. That impairs their brain's development. Adolescents shouldn't smoke pot.

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  7. Not just a fortune, it's costing you your freedom as well. Law Enforcement is one of those industries.

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  8. U guys obviously dont live in communities that depend on the pot trade. Kelowna needs it so badly. No one here is happy to see legalized weed. Please dont vote for a clown like trudeau

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    1. Yeah we're looking at Harper's police state or Trudeau's clown state. How about neither: http://gangstersout.blogspot.ca/2014/09/police-state-or-clown-sate-which-will.html

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